Approaching the Tyrannosaur Paddock
Nick Folkman - Los Angeles
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"The great news about Hollywood is that there is no better place to fail upward. I figured that there were people who had made worse films than I had and they were still working, so I figured I’d get one more shot. So finally, I got a script by a guy who was kind of in my world, and thinking about films the same way I was, and revered the same kinds of movie that I revered – Andy Walker, who had written a script called Seven. He couldn’t get it made and had rewritten it 13 times in order to make it more “likeable”. [audience laughs] So this script was floating around and my agent, who’s very sweet and always very hopeful, said, “You know, New Line is interested in this. You might like this, and they might want to make it with you, so maybe you should read it.” So I read it, and got to the end, with the head in the box, and I called him and said, “This is fantastic, this is so great because I had thought it was a police procedural; now it’s this meditation on evil and how evil gets on you and you can’t get it off.” And he said, “What are you talking about?” And I talked about the whole head-in-the-box thing, she’s been dead for hours and there’s no bullshit chase across town and the guy driving on sidewalks to get to the woman, who’s drawing a bath while the serial killer sneaks in the back window. And he goes, “Oh, they sent you the wrong draft.” [audience laughs] And he sent me the right draft, and there was a guy driving across town on sidewalks, serial killer sneaking in the back window. And I said that I wasn’t interested in doing that. So I went and met with Mike De Luca, who was ostensibly at the time running New Line, and I said that I really liked the first draft, not the 13th draft. And he said, “Me too.” So I asked what he was going to do, and I was laying out what I wanted to do on it. And he said, “Close the door.” And then he said, “If we develop this and get into a dialogue about changes that could possibly be made to this material, there’s no way that we could make this version of it, because I’ll have 15 people looking over my shoulder who are going to be reading these pages as they come in. But if you say that you’ll make this movie, starting in six weeks, we can make this version of the movie.” So I said, “OK, let’s go do it. Put the head in a box.” And that’s how the movie got made."
David Fincher on how he went from Alien³ to Se7en
"It was a baptism by fire. I was very naive. For a number of years, I’d been around the kind of people who financed movies and the kind of people who are there to make the deals for movies. But I’d always had this naive idea that everybody wants to make movies as good as they can be, which is stupid. [audience laughs] So I learned on this movie that nobody really knows, so therefore no one has to care, so it’s always going to be your fault. I’d always thought, “Well, surely you don’t want to have the Twentieth Century Fox logo over a shitty movie.” And they were like, “Well, as long as it opens.” So I learned then just to be a belligerent asshole, which was really: “You have to get what you need to get out of it.” You have to fight for things you believe in, and you have to be smart about how you position it so that you don’t just become white noise. On that movie, I was the guy who was constantly the voice of “We need to do this better, we need to do this, this doesn’t make sense”. And pretty soon, it was like in Peanuts: WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP! They’d go, “He’s doing that again, he’s frothing at the mouth, he seems so passionate.” They didn’t care."
David Fincher on making Alien³
"You know, Hollywood always pretends not to notice you. I don’t know. In a weird way, you have to be in LA long enough before anybody will realise that you’re serious about it. The last thing they want to do is enable people who aren’t going to be dedicated to their cause. I’d been making videos for 10 years, and this sounds stupid but I’d been there for six or seven years and felt like I had been there forever. I mean, I moved there in 1984 and started Propaganda Films in 1987, so I’d been doing commercials and videos for eight or 10 years before anybody gave me a shot at making a movie. And I wish they hadn’t."
David Fincher on when he got offered Alien³
"[Fox Executive Tom] Jacobson asks another question. Maybe he’s just making conversation. “The planet,” he says, “is that being done in camera?” Fincher shrugs, “we didn’t plan it that way. We haven’t found the right planet. We have location scouts out.”"
David Fincher being a smartass during the production of Alien³

Landfall & facility exterior, Alien 3, 2003 extended cut

bibidelcarmen:

”One of the smartest men on how to work and survive in the business (Joel Schumacher). At the time, I was deeply disturbed, horrified. It was so out of my control, so unbelievably fucked up. I showed him the movie and he goes, ‘Well, first of all, it’s not bad, it’s ok. The good news is, you’re aiming high. The bad news is you were not able to achieve what it is you wanna do. You’re an over-achiever, so you’re miserable. That’s number one. Number two is you put yourself in a position where they have more power than you. Because you care more about the movie than they do. And you can never let that happen again.’ And he was right. If you’re not prepared to say, ‘fuck it, let’s NOT do it.’, you have no power over the situation unless you’re prepared not to make it; you’re never going to get the movie you want, your way.”

Posted on November 2nd, 2012 at 9:55 AM
Tags ~ david fincher ~ alien 3 ~ joel schumacher
Reblogged from bibiamor

aliensandpredators:

Alien3 behind-the-scenes

via kylehuff: aintitcool.com

Posted on June 22nd, 2012 at 9:53 AM
Tags ~ Alien 3 ~ David Fincher
Source: aintitcool.com
Reblogged from skatieb

davidandthefinchers:

David Fincher and Sigourney Weaver on the set of Alien³.

Posted on June 2nd, 2012 at 9:49 AM
Tags ~ Film ~ david fincher ~ sigourney weaver ~ alien 3
Reblogged from larsulrich

So I watched Alien 3 for the first time yesterday.

I’m terrible at writing out my opinions on movies so I’ll just say that I thought it showed a lot of potential with its opening (and for most of the first 1/3rd of the movie), but after that it pretty much just went downhill with occasional bumps up in quality. I don’t think it’s the absolute trainwreck that everyone/the internet led me to believe though. Weaver turns in a fine performance, the sets are great for the most part (way too many generic hallways), Elliot Goldenthal wrote a pretty unsettling score, and the basic ideas behind the movie are solid and show potential. It’s just a shame that it wasn’t able to live up to its potential due to a truly fucked-up production.

Which leads me to why I’m writing this. Thanks to the making-of docs, I know all about Fincher’s troubles with making the movie, but I wanted to see if there was anything online of him talking about his experience since he declined to participate in any of the special features for the re-release.

I managed to find this Q&A conducted while he was actually still filming:

Fincher: So what do you want to know about my movie?
Q: How you got involved, the production process, what happened in London. All that staff.
Fincher: Well, it’s weird, because when I got involved, it was, we have a movie to make. How do we solve these problems? How do we get this movie made? I’d love to just take the 50 million bucks and just fuckin’ start over again.
Q: That’s worth talking about. Maybe we can save some young director…….
Fincher: What would you say? There’s no way a first-time director can make a $50 million movie in this town with the fuckin’ recession on the eve of the millennium, you know, with the panic that exists in this business right now. There’s no way. You can’t do it, because in the end, if you can’t say, “I made Jaws, trust me,” why should they trust you? One time, (producer) David Giler, incredibly aggressive and pissed off on a conference call with Fox, said, “Why are you listening to him for, he’s a shoe salesman!”.
Q: Meaning your Nike commercial.
Fincher: Exactly. And it’s perfectly valid. What do I know? I’m a shoe salesman.

This is from the same article too, I just thought it was hilarious.

[Fox Executive Tom] Jacobson asks another question. Maybe he’s just making conversation. “The planet,” he says, “is that being done in camera?” Fincher shrugs, “we didn’t plan it that way. We haven’t found the right planet. We have location scouts out.”

This interview was done after Benjamin Button was released:

MS: At the risk of opening old wounds, what did you take from that experience that has subsequently helped you in your Hollywood career?

DF: It was a baptism by fire. I was very naive. For a number of years, I’d been around the kind of people who financed movies and the kind of people who are there to make the deals for movies. But I’d always had this naive idea that everybody wants to make movies as good as they can be, which is stupid. [audience laughs] So I learned on this movie that nobody really knows, so therefore no one has to care, so it’s always going to be your fault. I’d always thought, “Well, surely you don’t want to have the Twentieth Century Fox logo over a shitty movie.” And they were like, “Well, as long as it opens.” So I learned then just to be a belligerent asshole, which was really: “You have to get what you need to get out of it.” You have to fight for things you believe in, and you have to be smart about how you position it so that you don’t just become white noise. On that movie, I was the guy who was constantly the voice of “We need to do this better, we need to do this, this doesn’t make sense”. And pretty soon, it was like in Peanuts: WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP! They’d go, “He’s doing that again, he’s frothing at the mouth, he seems so passionate.” They didn’t care.

And finally, Fincher being interviewed right after Alien 3 opened:

David Fincher sighs again. Struggling with the alien has been a bloody and expensive learning experience. A $50m learning experience to be precise. ‘You know,’ he concludes, ‘if I make 10 shitty movies, I’ll deserve the flak and if I go on to make 10 great ones, this’ll probably be looked upon as my first bungled masterpiece.’

There’s much more at all of the links, I just thought some people might be interested in all this as much as I am.